dbz powers vs. yyh powers |
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Written by urameshi
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Sunday, 09 April 2006 |
urameshi April 7th, 2005, 12:42 AM i know by the end of dbz there way stronger, but i think devil yusuke can take the androids.How far do you think yyh can stand with dbz
Miyu April 7th, 2005, 03:08 AM i think yu yu hakusho would wup their asss'. one because be the end of the series almost all the characters are of class S. (and its demon not devil)
Sledgstone April 7th, 2005, 09:04 AM its not even close.. dbz characters are rediculously overpowered.. but at the end of the entire series they don't even show their power to scale anymore..
example:
DBGT:
ssj4 goku blasts guy into mountain.. mountain shatters..
DBZ:
regular goku blasts guy into mountain.. mountain shatters and crater forms..
at the end of yu yu, i'd probably say they could hold their own to a little past the android saga.. perfect cell would own them all tho.
as for dragon ball gt.. i think the yu yu hakusho characters would probably whoop everyone's ass because they wouldn't hold back and joke constantly. kurama alone would probably trap goku in some sort of death plant or something while pan constantly attacked in vain like she always does. X'D
Crimson King April 7th, 2005, 09:50 AM The characters in DBZ are way powerful. If Goku wanted, he could destroy an entire solar system. Could anybody from Yu Yu even destroy a planet? Didn't think so ;). I'm sure Krillin could even destroy a planet, if he really wanted to. And Krillin's probably the weakest character in DBZ. Well, maybe not weakest, but he's pretty weak compared to just about everybody else.
I don't think they'd stand a chance against the Andriods, seeing as how SSJ Vegeta, Gohan, and everybody else died by their hands. Nobody in Yu Yu even comes close to a SSJ.
Yusuke vs. Krillin? Maybe...
Kuwabara April 7th, 2005, 10:53 AM Crimson how dare you insult Yusuke by placing him with krillen!!
This is a YU Yu fan your talking to here and i've been waiting for this topic.
now here i go "DB" i'm talking about gt/z when i say "db". The strongest peolpe are the sayins which are goku gohan vegita trunks and goten. Now they are ridiculous in power i mean there powerw are B.S.
In Yu yu they are very powerful by the end of the demon tournament. Now i wont lie goku would spank yusuke but not kurama. Yusuke has the power to make the world tremble when he powers up and in demon tournament Yusuke's body shatter more than just mountains. His spirit gun is more monsterous than ever. And he has the granade laucher at that.
Now before i go back to Yusuke hiei will out class anyone in "Db" in spped . Now that s just the begginning of Hiei. i don't think they would be able to stop his demon world dragon. In power he rivals vegita but his speed would make him a superior warrior compare to the sayin Prince.
Now Kurama i have only one thing to say he'll kill anyone on Dbz they all think with there asses. not counting piccolo but i'm telling Kurama's brain is superior to Piccolo's. and further more he is too cunning to fall for any pitiful sayin plot.
Kuwabara is prbably the only one that won't give the sayins a real run for the money but he is no push over. He could beat Gotan thats a fact. maybe trunks cause he has the dimension sword. I don't think ''DB" has anything to rival that power do they?
Taht just the beggjingin of what i have to say the bell rung so wait till get home.
Crimson King April 7th, 2005, 11:10 AM Crimson how dare you insult Yusuke by placing him with krillen!!
This is a YU Yu fan your talking to here and i've been waiting for this topic.
I'm a Yu Yu fan, too. But I just look at it how it is. Krillin has gotten much stronger in DBZ, although he really doesn't fight in the later parts of both Z and GT. But you have to remember, if you ever saw the Freezia saga, Krillin messed Freezia up. And it took SSJ 1 Goku to kill him. So when you look at it, Krillin has about the same power of a SSJ1, which really isn't a lot when you compare it to just about everybody else. And Krillin's distruco disk would cut Yusuke in half.
As far as Hiei outclassing anybody in speed, I don't think so. If you remember, everybody that can fly in DBZ can teleport. They can't really teleport as far as Goku, but they can still teleport. And teleporting is done instantaneously. It's pretty much like freezing time + going an insane amount of speed.
I do agree with you on the Kurama owning just about anybody in DBZ, though. As Kurama has shown on numerous occasions, all he has to do is plant a seed in somebody, and it's game over. However, don't forget, that in DBZ and late GT, Buu was still around. Buu can go inside himself, and do anything he wants. If you've seen the Fusion Saga, you'd see that Buu could make a million of himself inside of his own body, if he wanted to. The strongest attack that anybody could do, if it were done while inside Buu, it'd be like a bug bite. So a seed wouldn't be any problem for Buu.
Kuwabara, though, could probably own half of the people in DBZ. There's no way he could own any of the saiyans, though. They're just too fast. Heck, all anybody would have to do is just fly up out of his sight, and then shoot a bunch of enegry balls. But if Kuwabara caught them off-gaurd, like when they're trying to act tough by standing still while the person attacks, they'd be screwed if Kuwabara used his dimension sword.
urameshi April 7th, 2005, 03:29 PM Ok you assume yusuke cant destroy planets, he never tryed so dont say he cant.i think he easily can, look at the spirit gun blast that he killed sensui with that was as big as the spirit bomb in buu saga, and it made a crater just as big as the spirit bomb,and that was only yusukes power the spirit bomb was the WHOLE EARTHS POWER.so yusuke can destroy planets (if he tried).so if any dbz character wants to take a spirit gun head on, there gonna get fuked up that goes for the saiyans too.yes hiei and yusuke can match there speed but like i said anything after the androids is too fast,and too strong.
Thats true some yyh characters have abilities that can take ssj4,like kurama planting seeds,and kuwabaras dimension sword,if it can cut through dimensions it can cut through anything.even kaito can take dbz characters if he gets them trapped in that taboo territory none of the dbz characters are as smart as kurama so there screwed there.well thats about it.
Kuwabara April 8th, 2005, 10:16 AM Exactly just cause they don't try yo destroy the world doesn't mean they can't. And they all have the power to kill the sayins. Hve you seen the whole series? Well i'm stii writing the thing that wiil change evryone's mind.
Miyu April 8th, 2005, 08:59 PM yeah go kuwabara!!! *sees that everyone is staring* what? *sits back down emberessed*
Akira13 April 8th, 2005, 09:56 PM Ok you assume yusuke cant destroy planets, he never tryed so dont say he cant.i think he easily can, look at the spirit gun blast that he killed sensui with that was as big as the spirit bomb in buu saga, and it made a crater just as big as the spirit bomb,and that was only yusukes power the spirit bomb was the WHOLE EARTHS POWER.so yusuke can destroy planets (if he tried).so if any dbz character wants to take a spirit gun head on, there gonna get fuked up that goes for the saiyans too.yes hiei and yusuke can match there speed but like i said anything after the androids is too fast,and too strong.
Thats true some yyh characters have abilities that can take ssj4,like kurama planting seeds,and kuwabaras dimension sword,if it can cut through dimensions it can cut through anything.even kaito can take dbz characters if he gets them trapped in that taboo territory none of the dbz characters are as smart as kurama so there screwed there.well thats about it.
Didn't someone in the series state while that Sensui could destroy planets, Yusuke couldn't?
DeathscytheX April 8th, 2005, 10:25 PM Anyone that thinks anything or anyone from any show ever can over power Goku is mistaken.
Goku's power is so far fetched out or the realms out all things no one could ever beat him. He is stronger than God himself in the freakin series. Which is pretty much why it became so ridiculous. 10x Kamehameha would overpower the spirit gun anyday because thats just the way it is. Goku is god-like and no opponent has ever nor will ever beat him. thats just they way it story goes. He may die with the win, but he can't be defeated. Even if anyone in YYH got the upper hand, somehow goku will still have a small amount of energy left in some unrealistic way and manage to create some big ass Spirit bomb without yuske knowing somehow. and BOOOOM Goku wins.
No one can beat Goku... no one. Its impossible. you just cant do it. He just wont die until he wins X'D anyone is a fool to think otherwise! XD
Ladywriter April 9th, 2005, 11:07 AM hmmm... let us consider the "dumb ass factor" for a moment shall we?
Goku fights from the heart, depending on his strength and indurance. He is a SSJ of very little brain. If he were actually to go against an intellegent opponent that does not underestimate him he could very likely lose/die... but of course he would try to take the bad guy with him.
DeathscytheX April 9th, 2005, 07:10 PM NEVER!! Piccolo would come to the rescue and distract them with endless rambling while he purposely gets beat upon while goku creates a spirit bomb from the universe X'D
urameshi April 10th, 2005, 04:54 AM yusukes not stupid like every dbz villian.yusuke would be punching, until goku goes down he wouldnt stand there while gokus hands are up.besides if anything its a draw, unless they ever make a movie based on yyh vs dbz we will never know whos stronger
Kuwabara April 11th, 2005, 10:40 AM Well here is a quick Scenario He cant over power Goku we all know that. But what is to say Yusuke fights Goku? Kurama would fight him and if Yusuke does remember Yusuke may not ahve the outrageous amount of an energy source he has 3 powerful forces. He has Demon Energy Spirit energy and life energy. And Piccolo would not outsmart kurama and we seem to all forget the. ...
small difference.
I meam Hiei you all seem to be discussing Goku VS. Yusuke its YYH vs DBZ. And Hiei would own vegita. Kuwabara has the power to kill goten and Trunks. Look Yusuke's master was stronger than Goku's master so his fighting is superior. Goku just has the energy to defeat Yusuke but Yusuke has skill something Goku lacks.
DeathscytheX April 14th, 2005, 12:49 AM You dont understand!! none of you!!!
Goku cannot be defeated!! X'D NO ONE CAN BEAT HIM!!!! HE IS INVINCIBLE TO THE END!! ROTFL. Ever person he has faced has been stronger than him at that point in time, and they beat the living shit out of Goku and yet he wouldn't Die! I am not favoring the DBZ characters. Its just a simple fact that Goku will always win, even missing limbs. X'D its against the laws of how things are for Goku to lose! he has magic power to turn people stupid!
as far as factual, Master Roshi was only Goku's master in his younger days. Goku was also trained by King Kai and Grand Kai. He also trained in 300% gravity, something Yuske can not do.
Not to mention Goku's speed is insanely superior to yusuke's I mean by A FREAKIN LOT! and Yuskuke can't fly. Hiei could come close to matching speed. as far as owning Vegeta thats a whole different story.
This whole combination is bad, DBZ is just too unrealistically over powered, while YYH takes a more realist appoarch to things. While yusuke has great power he is still very human.
I can tell you one thing. No one could take on Gogeta... no one. end of story... if you even think the thought you are crazy.
urameshi April 14th, 2005, 01:42 AM yusukes the freaking devil,he gets pissed and cant lose. gokus died many times,just cause yusuke cant fly doesnt mean anything. dbz is just powerful in a different way then yyh is. yyh has the advantage on ground, dbz is air.yusuke is hella fast im sure he can match gokus speed if hiei can. you dont know how much gravity he can train in he never TRAINED IN IT. goku trained in 100x gravity when he was barely at 150,000 power lvl devil yusuke is way stronger then that yusuke can destroy frieza im sure of, so no telling how much gravity he can train in.
just to make dbz characters look weak and stupid.IT TOOK GOKU 20 YEARS, ALL THROUGH DRAGONBALL UP TO FRIEZA. ALL THAT TRAINING TO BECOME A SUPER SAIYAN.when yusuke got that power in only 2 years, 2 FREAKING YEARS, HE NEVER EVEN TOUCHED GRAVITY AND LOOK HOW STRONG HE IS.if you gave yusuke 20 years of training, hed destroy every dbz character, saiyan whatever just by looking at them.
Sabe April 14th, 2005, 02:04 AM urameshi, chill. What DX said here...
This whole combination is bad, DBZ is just too unrealistically over powered, while YYH takes a more realist appoarch to things.
...is right. There is no real good way to compare the two, because of the difference in points of view. IMHO, there would be no way for Yusuke to train under multiple gravities, because the more muscle a person has, the more they weigh. Therefore, they's just be heavier under the gravity boost.
At 300 times gravity, supposing Yusuke weighs around 195 lbs, under 300x gravity he'd weigh over 29 tons. He'd shatter every bone at 10x gravity and be killed. There'd be nothing left at 300x gravity. So the gravity thing is irrelavent.
As for training time, there is another difference there. To even have ANY power above brute strength, Yusuke had to DIE. Goku was born with hella power, not to overlook that he trained since he was a kid. He was stronger than normal Yusuke when he was a kid. As a teen, he was well above Yusuke's revived form. After that the POV's of the creators was so massivly different, that a good comparisin was out the window.
So getting worked up about this is really kinda silly; but if you want to continue, by all means go ahead! ^_^ It's getting kida fun to watch! You both have good points!
slippers April 14th, 2005, 01:28 PM dx and sabe has a point.
think back, piccolo was levitating 3 pyramids with only using his mind. one pyramid contains 2 million stone blocks, each block weighs over two tons at least. yet he still got owned by nappa. there's no way yuske ever attempting to lift single block and succeed.
although, i think author of dragonballs often forgets how powerful he made his characters and later you see goku having trouble saving the eggs from mere dinosaurs that he easily beat even when he was little boy.
urameshi April 14th, 2005, 04:10 PM ya dragonball screws up like that they make them to strong in the early eps when they still seem the same when there ssj.
how do you know yusuke cant lift a pyramid, or train in gravity, has he ever tried NO.toguro lifted that big as stone ring on his back, and he was only at like 20% that ring has to weigh ALOT.at 100% he can lift more then a pyramid.yusukes times 100,000,000,000 stronger then toguro now, face it whatever you say i can come back with something.you guys think by lifting mountains they can take yyh characters but no, they may be strong but thats it.kuwabara in a physical fight cant even take chibi goku in dragon ball. but with his dimension sword he can cut ssj4 goku in half.do you get the point yyhs power isnt judged by how much mountains they lift its all there spirit energy.so please could you guys stop bringing up pyramids and mountains it just makes you look stupid.gosh i love being the smartest one here.
DeathscytheX April 14th, 2005, 05:08 PM yusukes the freaking devil,he gets pissed and cant lose. gokus died many times,just cause yusuke cant fly doesnt mean anything. dbz is just powerful in a different way then yyh is. yyh has the advantage on ground, dbz is air.yusuke is hella fast im sure he can match gokus speed if hiei can. you dont know how much gravity he can train in he never TRAINED IN IT. goku trained in 100x gravity when he was barely at 150,000 power lvl devil yusuke is way stronger then that yusuke can destroy frieza im sure of, so no telling how much gravity he can train in.
just to make dbz characters look weak and stupid.IT TOOK GOKU 20 YEARS, ALL THROUGH DRAGONBALL UP TO FRIEZA. ALL THAT TRAINING TO BECOME A SUPER SAIYAN.when yusuke got that power in only 2 years, 2 FREAKING YEARS, HE NEVER EVEN TOUCHED GRAVITY AND LOOK HOW STRONG HE IS.if you gave yusuke 20 years of training, hed destroy every dbz character, saiyan whatever just by looking at them.
Goku was stronger than God (supreme kai) himself in the series. Yusuke is a human, if he got shot by a bullet he would die. unlike goku who has been shot many times as a kid.
Its 2 different stories, and 2 different things. You claim to be the smartest one here, but you cant even tell the differnce. If you want to be that arrogant about it, I can tell you that your IQ is no where near mine. trust me, that is a fact. Doesnt matter how long they trained Goku is unbeatable and Gogeta would dominate everyone in YYH at once.
Its like comparing Lord of the Rings and Star Wars.
Sledgstone April 14th, 2005, 05:58 PM how do you know yusuke cant defeat Gogeta, or train in gravity, or make scrambled eggs with his mind, has he ever tried NO. :p
lmao, we all know who would really win in a deathmatch fight between gogeta and yusuke.. Speed Racer!
http://forums.ancientclan.com/images/avatars/SpeedRacer/speed.gif
*Speed Racer flys in out of nowhere and kills yusuke & gogeta*
Speed: Take that Yusuke! Take that Gogeta! Feel the power of the Mach 5!
and why would Speed win? simple..
how do you know Speed cant defeat Gogeta, or defeat yusuke, or make scrambled eggs with his mind, has he ever tried NO.
go ahead and try to disprove me, i'll just reply with the same post slightly altered. :cool:
ya dragonball screws up like that they make them to strong in the early eps when they still seem the same when there ssj.
how do you know yusuke cant lift a pyramid, or train in gravity, has he ever tried NO.toguro lifted that big as stone ring on his back, and he was only at like 20% that ring has to weigh ALOT.at 100% he can lift more then a pyramid.yusukes times 100,000,000,000 stronger then toguro now, face it whatever you say i can come back with something.you guys think by lifting mountains they can take yyh characters but no, they may be strong but thats it.kuwabara in a physical fight cant even take chibi goku in dragon ball. but with his dimension sword he can cut ssj4 goku in half.do you get the point yyhs power isnt judged by how much mountains they lift its all there spirit energy.so please could you guys stop bringing up pyramids and mountains it just makes you look stupid.gosh i love being the smartest one here.
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slippers April 14th, 2005, 06:08 PM :spit: he could make scramble egg on his running engine while driving with one hand and beating the crap outta yuske and goku with other. ;)
Sledgstone April 14th, 2005, 06:15 PM excellent point! X'D
and lets not forget about his trunk monkey:
http://forums.ancientclan.com/images/avatars/SpeedRacer/chimchim.gif
chim chim would school hiei. X'D
and could anyone disprove this? no.. why?
how do you know Chim Chim cant school hiei, or defeat kurama, or make scrambled eggs with his mind, has he ever tried NO.
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slippers April 14th, 2005, 06:17 PM ROTFLMAO!!! :rotfl:you kill me man!! :lol:
Kiki April 14th, 2005, 08:02 PM Could you abbreviate trunk monkey to tronkey, or does that not work? OH speed racer... but won't he be defeated by a spicy shrimp attack from Tuxedo Melvin?
urameshi April 15th, 2005, 02:16 AM death scythe you just proved your iq is -0. you say yusukes a human.WRONG hes a high classed blooded demon.a bullet would kill yusuke man, watch yyh before you try to talk. if yusuke can take toguro blows or sensuis he can take a bullet. *note* toguro at 100% shot yusuke in the head with a spirit bullet, alot stronger, and faster, then a real bullet. it barely scratched him.
THANKYOU sledgestone. thats what i been trying to say, how do you know yusuke cant beat goku, hell you dont even know if ashes pikachu can beat goku, after all the training its been through.until they make a movie on pikachu vs. goku or yusuke vs. goku we will never know.god, why am i so smart.
Sledgstone April 15th, 2005, 07:19 AM do you understand the term sarcasm? your ignorance is blatant and undeniable. by saying something idiotic like:
how do you know yusuke cant lift a pyramid, or train in gravity, has he ever tried NO.
you are only proving your lack of debating skills. when you want to prove a point about something, take the facts that have been shown from both animes and offer a plausable reason as to why certain events could occur. then possibly theorize on your points. posts like the ones you're making in this topic will only lower your reputation.
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